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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(First, Andy, please make your blog DOfollow - I 
nearly didn&#039;t comment as I want to be rewarded with
some link love if and whenever I comment, :) As far
as I am concerned, it makes no sense to contribute
meaningfully in blogs without getting something back)

I am 100% certain that Andy is right and Leslie is
wrong because I have seen the results in my own
testing. Back in the days, I focused more on creating
articles that just mentions the keywords in the title
and several other places in the body. It used to 
work very well, but doesn&#039;t anymore. It&#039;s now
obvious that the search engines READ the entire page
looking for words that SHOULD &quot;thematically&quot; relate
to what the article is about. If they don&#039;t find 
other such words, then they don&#039;t give value to the
article in terms of the keywords the article is
targeting. So, whether it&#039;s called LSI or whatever,
they DO use a system that reads the entire article
to find other &quot;thematically&quot; related words. 

And like Andy has rightly said - even if the search
engines like Google use LSI or not, there are other
ranking factors that CAN make a page rank beyond LSI.
For example, if an article doesn&#039;t bother with LSI
but has a gazillion high quality backlinks with the
keyword as the anchor text, it should rank - with or
without LSI. But the point is - to ensure your 
articles do well, make it themed, so that whether or
not you drive backlinks to it, it will rank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(First, Andy, please make your blog DOfollow &#8211; I<br />
nearly didn&#8217;t comment as I want to be rewarded with<br />
some link love if and whenever I comment, <img src='http://ezseonews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  As far<br />
as I am concerned, it makes no sense to contribute<br />
meaningfully in blogs without getting something back)</p>
<p>I am 100% certain that Andy is right and Leslie is<br />
wrong because I have seen the results in my own<br />
testing. Back in the days, I focused more on creating<br />
articles that just mentions the keywords in the title<br />
and several other places in the body. It used to<br />
work very well, but doesn&#8217;t anymore. It&#8217;s now<br />
obvious that the search engines READ the entire page<br />
looking for words that SHOULD &#8220;thematically&#8221; relate<br />
to what the article is about. If they don&#8217;t find<br />
other such words, then they don&#8217;t give value to the<br />
article in terms of the keywords the article is<br />
targeting. So, whether it&#8217;s called LSI or whatever,<br />
they DO use a system that reads the entire article<br />
to find other &#8220;thematically&#8221; related words. </p>
<p>And like Andy has rightly said &#8211; even if the search<br />
engines like Google use LSI or not, there are other<br />
ranking factors that CAN make a page rank beyond LSI.<br />
For example, if an article doesn&#8217;t bother with LSI<br />
but has a gazillion high quality backlinks with the<br />
keyword as the anchor text, it should rank &#8211; with or<br />
without LSI. But the point is &#8211; to ensure your<br />
articles do well, make it themed, so that whether or<br />
not you drive backlinks to it, it will rank.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 06:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mark
 Someone else told me about their comment not making it to the Stompernet blog as well.  If you want to post your reply as a comment here, I&#039;ll gladly approve it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark<br />
 Someone else told me about their comment not making it to the Stompernet blog as well.  If you want to post your reply as a comment here, I&#8217;ll gladly approve it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://ezseonews.com/internet-marketing-tips/ezseo-newsletter-235/comment-page-1/#comment-3086</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 05:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As soon as Leslie&#039;s video came out on StomperNet I posted up quite a long reply, rebutting the way that the information was presented, obviously professionally written.

I was rather disappointed to say the least that an hour or so of writing that reply out in detail, it didn&#039;t even make it to the comments section as no doubt it was deleted on site.

It instantly looked very much like it to me that the owners of StomperNet were only allowing comments which backed up their own position and did not allow for any other position to be discussed upon, showing up the video for what it was, a blatant piece of misrepresenting information to back up their own product relaunch i.e. referential indexing.

This I thought was extremely unprofessional and it&#039;s completely put me off ever looking at StomperNet as a viable and professional source of information for IM&#039;ers online.

Surely, they at least could have demonstrated the good manners to allow an opposing opinion to be posted up?  I&#039;m guessing here that mine was not the only comment defending LSI and keyword theming to be deleted on site, even though much care and time had been put into those replies there.

That in my opinion is simply bad manners.

Many thanks for posting this up here above Andy.

Kindest regards.

Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As soon as Leslie&#8217;s video came out on StomperNet I posted up quite a long reply, rebutting the way that the information was presented, obviously professionally written.</p>
<p>I was rather disappointed to say the least that an hour or so of writing that reply out in detail, it didn&#8217;t even make it to the comments section as no doubt it was deleted on site.</p>
<p>It instantly looked very much like it to me that the owners of StomperNet were only allowing comments which backed up their own position and did not allow for any other position to be discussed upon, showing up the video for what it was, a blatant piece of misrepresenting information to back up their own product relaunch i.e. referential indexing.</p>
<p>This I thought was extremely unprofessional and it&#8217;s completely put me off ever looking at StomperNet as a viable and professional source of information for IM&#8217;ers online.</p>
<p>Surely, they at least could have demonstrated the good manners to allow an opposing opinion to be posted up?  I&#8217;m guessing here that mine was not the only comment defending LSI and keyword theming to be deleted on site, even though much care and time had been put into those replies there.</p>
<p>That in my opinion is simply bad manners.</p>
<p>Many thanks for posting this up here above Andy.</p>
<p>Kindest regards.</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 02:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a good point Andy. A refreshing pragmatic approach.

It&#039;s the LSI paradox and the inherent problem of semantics. Not everyone uses the same words to mean the same things. Meanings change over time. Words and their usage come and go.

Surely the LSI mathematical problems and scalability are well documented. Even years back. There are several patents, but Google didn&#039;t have to register them, because they purchased Applied Semantics.

Do semantics exist? Yes, look at any page with AdSense ads. You&#039;ll see that the algo tries to extract meaning from the content to place relevant ads.

On the organic search side of things, the term LSI in the SEO community has come to mean &quot;themeing up&quot; a website. I&#039;m sure a few years from now, when you look up the meaning of LSI, it will probably say, &quot;It&#039;s the practice of linking thematically related pages together to boost search engine rankings.&quot; ...or something to that effect.

So just like &quot;rap&quot; used to mean knock, potatoes became spuds, sofa became couch, LSI was a mathematical paper, now it means themes. And therein lies the paradox and the inherent problem of semantics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a good point Andy. A refreshing pragmatic approach.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the LSI paradox and the inherent problem of semantics. Not everyone uses the same words to mean the same things. Meanings change over time. Words and their usage come and go.</p>
<p>Surely the LSI mathematical problems and scalability are well documented. Even years back. There are several patents, but Google didn&#8217;t have to register them, because they purchased Applied Semantics.</p>
<p>Do semantics exist? Yes, look at any page with AdSense ads. You&#8217;ll see that the algo tries to extract meaning from the content to place relevant ads.</p>
<p>On the organic search side of things, the term LSI in the SEO community has come to mean &#8220;themeing up&#8221; a website. I&#8217;m sure a few years from now, when you look up the meaning of LSI, it will probably say, &#8220;It&#8217;s the practice of linking thematically related pages together to boost search engine rankings.&#8221; &#8230;or something to that effect.</p>
<p>So just like &#8220;rap&#8221; used to mean knock, potatoes became spuds, sofa became couch, LSI was a mathematical paper, now it means themes. And therein lies the paradox and the inherent problem of semantics.</p>
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		<title>By: Wednesday Online Marketing Wrap Up - April 15th 2009 &#124; SEO &#38; Online Reputation Management Blog &#124; One Result</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wednesday Online Marketing Wrap Up - April 15th 2009 &#124; SEO &#38; Online Reputation Management Blog &#124; One Result</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Perhaps they are both right in their own way. You can judge the pros and cons of Andy&#8217;s argument for yourself at: http://ezseonews.com/internet-marketing-tips/ezseo-newsletter-235/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Perhaps they are both right in their own way. You can judge the pros and cons of Andy&#8217;s argument for yourself at: <a href="http://ezseonews.com/internet-marketing-tips/ezseo-newsletter-235/" rel="nofollow">http://ezseonews.com/internet-marketing-tips/ezseo-newsletter-235/</a> [...]</p>
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